I -as a non-native- am seeing lon-ging as opposed to lon-eliness in this specific Japanese account. These 2 words in English cultural linguistics share on multiple levels: philology, toxicology, and hermeneutics. In both experiential constructs, loss is involved. Do these two constructs share as much in Japanese linguistics? How would you define the difference between the constructs from a Japanese perspective? Thank you.

Thank you for these profound reflections , sorry I must leave for clinical meeting

Thanks, Jaswant!

**lexicology NOT toxicology, in my previous comment. Sorry, in and out of procedures today.

I would add that relational process is crucial n empathy, research; dare we add humility?

I love your idea of critical empathy because of course no one is capable to fully be empathic to someone else!

Also, it seems that communal loneliness in the Japanese sense is part and parcel of communal memory.

But don’t you think that when you say that loneliness is a problem of society and not of the individual you loose part of the the problem? How about thinking it in the intersection of individual and society ? Just sharing some thoughts. Thank you for this wonderful presentation!

Thank you for a very stimulating talk. Loneliness and suicide are so central to well-being. It would be great if there can in the future be comparative research in other cultures and contexts. In Turkish there is the idiom "Loneliness is only for God" (Yalnızlık Allaha mahsustur).

It seems suicide stigma in Japan is different from other culture.Would you like to talk more about that,chikako.Thanks a lot.

Unfortunately I have to leave now. Thank you again for a very thought provoking presentation. Very timely...

I can make a comment

Very beautiful and thoughtful presentation thanks! How does your thinking about this relate to earlier writing about society and loneliness, Also to Durkheimn’s writing about anomie?

The title of your book is a nod to Takeo Doi’s work “The Anatomy of Dependence.” Can you say a little bit more about the cultural context of loneliness in Japan in terms of socio-emotional socialization of children and the mother-child or caregiver-child relationship? And also the interplay between this and the neoliberal social and material environment? I ask because when I worked on Burmese childhood for my dissertation, I drew heavily upon Takeo Doi and the Japanese literature there were so many similarities.

How does your ethnography relate to to longer standing Japanese social performance of loneliness as an idiom of distress?

Wonderful talk. So illuminating. Looking forward to reading your book

So nice seeing you all, like old times. I have a faculty meeting n a few minutes.mWonderful work Chicako.

@Iman, your comment on lon-eliness and lon-ging remind me of the connections Lisa Stevenson makes between the two in her work on suicide in the Arctic.

"Empathy is an act of imagination". Certainly it is. In clinical practice, in order to explore the patient's innerworld, the clinician needs to have an attitude (awareness) approach imagine the multiple worlds that patient may be living in,

I am so sorry I have to leave now. Looking forward to reading your book Chicako! Thank you all!

and all in relational context, moment by moment.

I think place, not space…because the first has belongs

Yalnızlık Allaha mahsustur (loneliness is only for God) — introduces another component — what is the role of Buddhist philosophical attitudes to the world in Japanese responses to 3/11?

Thank you Chikako for your wonderful talk and looking forward to read your book. Very interested in the way you expand on critical empathy. It could be very helpful in ethnographic exploration but I also see applications in medical and mental health clinical practice.

I absolutely agree with Antonio and all else who have congratulated Chikako - it changes how we will continue to focus on a topic that has been very elusive. Brilliant.

Thank you, Chikako. I look forward to reading your book. Great discussion.

Thanks so much Chikako for this wonderful piece of work which shows the beauty of the ethnography

Just to put a couple of things on the table: 1) Alasdair taught me, in interviewing courses, to be extremely careful about ‘empathy’ — to assume we really do understand what someone is saying. He talks about forcing ourselves to listen with an awareness that we really have no idea what the other is saying. This pushes on to the question of whether “loneliness” is a singular concept…

Second, to follow on Seinenu’s chat, on Takeo Doi’s book The Anatomy of Dependence — how ‘dependency’ in personhood shapes ‘loneliness’.

Need to run to a meeting. Thank you, Chikako, Mary-Jo, Sadeq, and all.

Amen Byron. creating the space to notice, rather than assume we ‘know’ what the other is experiencing… humility is here, also your notion of the subjunctive… thanks

Thanks Byron, Mary-jo and Sadeq for this wonderful seminar today

I find Lori Gruen’s notion of “entangled empathy” (in interspecies contexts) especially helpful because it begins with the premise that we can never fully understand the other (be they human or animal) but that empathy is, nevertheless, an important project/commitment

Indigenous suicide….change a lot Last 4 years…..wich one Big event occured

extase drugs

Yes, Lou. So much to talk about here…

Drugs enter inside of indigenous reserve

Devastating…

The sense f belongs changed

Thanks for these important reminders/suggestions, Byron & Lesley.

going to the community level of loneliness I wonder if it is not hunted by politic

Thank you very much for the fascinating talk.

Ditto—great talk and thought provoking discussion

Thank you for these valuable insights!

Yessss my dear

I miss you and Mary-Jo

Thank you very much! Interesting work ,, just ordered the book can’t wait to read it

Thank you so much, dear Chikako, dear Sadeq — and all!

Have to switch over to another zoom; this was a fabulous seminar. Excellent work, Chicako!

Thank you so much Chikako! Also for engaging with all these questions so deeply.

The loneless inside of paraense literatura is so profound….I read a lot about it