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Good morninggggg

Hi All, I just jumped on to say hi. I have meetings all day starting in a moment! Adia and Paul, I'm sad not to be able to hear you, and will look forward to listening to the recording! Michele should be logging on shortly on her own.

Hey glamorous

Good Morning and Good Day and Good Evening

Also, with regards to bandwidth, it's worth trying to plug in directly to your router (with an ethernet cable) and checking your speed if you can. Then you know if it's your local wifi or the connection to Comcast.

No Enchanted Palace: The End of Empire and the Ideological Origins of the United Nations

that's the name of the book

tks

it's by Mark Mazower (historian)

hi everyone (it's andrea c.), great to see you all!

Mary Jo I am going next week to Indigenous Reserve till 22 Marc.

To get some perception about COVID and the pentecostal Churches

Do you think I can send you some impressiona?

Thoughts from the Field-word?

Hi everyone!

You can use WebEx

When Linda and rob and I are here, we’re reaching back to the 80s

Lehmann Institute gives founds tp Brazil Studies...

I left out Fever Archives!

As same as Brazil, only molitary now a days

military

Noites

This questionnaire is insane -- I'd love to know how they came up with the questions

Reminds me of the Moynihan Report and other “culture of poverty” type assumptions.

Great!

Troubling and fascinating!

This was really really interesting. Thank you so much.

congratulations

There’s an interesting structural similarity between the cases you bring together and some of the work of Simone Browne that you’re probably aware of, and if not, could be useful for your analysis.

Oh look. A granary!

Ironic allusion to Plato’s cave?

Nothing so learned

Thank you so much for this talk, Adia. I’m so sorry to have to leave. This is so pertinent to what multinational companies are now doing with their “human rights lens,” which is so disempowering and condescending and, as a result, often damaging.

Your tangents are spun gold

+1 Paul

Your discussion of the epidemic of child murders in Georgia was so powerful, novel, striking, and troubling. I may have missed some of the framing while wrangling my toddler — but your discussion of the case left me with a generative mental itch in terms of how anti-black (militarized) police violence is discussed as “the other epidemic” amidst covid-19 and how public health responses to police violence are framed (by professional communities like APA, AMA but also in an array of popular media and advocacy spaces) — not just the discourse, but who is actually doing the work and how. No well-framed questions here but if useful, I’d be interested in hearing you riff on this a bit more!

I’d like to return to Paul’s provocation of control over care to ask Adia more explicitly about anti-blackness here.

Sure

Thanks so much Adia, such a fantastic talk. I'm sorry that I have to leave early. So much to think about vis a vis how we "contain" disease. Thinking about all the laws that emerged with the plague and cholera in South Africa at the beginning of the 20th century, that resulted in moving people into "locations" -- which allowed black and brown people to be blamed for disease because of poor living conditions that were visited upon them. And the response: "these people" are like, x, y, or z, and it would be futile to do more to help them. We add here groups beyond the state, but the idea that there is something immutable in the people themselves that can be measured as a proximal determinant seems to be an instrument of control and extraction that has withstood the test of time.

Paul the filler

Have to pick up Faisal from school. Bye!

great sandwich paul

Do you think the issue of equity and social justice will be ended in the future ?

I’m here

he walked home

I think of the contrast with PIH accompaniment unit for MA, a big contrast to traditional ‘contact tracing” - care rather than surveillance

We hang out a few minutes after 12 for conversation

I am sorry to have to leave early, but thank you for a wonderful talk and discussion.

Post-modern Lonroso

Lombroso theory

The Atlantic child murders are also in a few episodes of Mind Hunters — on Netflix.

I would like to hear why you think the person they convicted was not the murderer

What’s the Hoffmann article? Forensics?

yes yes

Thanks, Adia. Yet another provocative talk. A big thanks to Paul, too, for an insightful commentary. Sorry I need to go. Best wishes to all—Lesley

Foucault’s idea of pastoral power combines care and control, individualizing and collectivizing practices, and confessional technologies—still something to consider.

We all have our limits

Rain is scary in Sierra Leone

Hello professor how are you

great to see you

Great to see you Dr. M.

moi aussi

Like the nurses

Some unpaid for years

Thats so helpful and clear, Adia

yes

That was really great. Thank you

thank you so much ! I greatly enjoyed that

Thank you....

Thank you!

Bravo! Thank you so much!

Thank you!

THANKS!

Take care folks! It was fantastic to see all of you

Bye Andy

I must go…what a pity

By and

Thanks Adia! That was amazing. I gotta run...

Andy

Must jump on another call. Lovely to see you again Adia and thanks again for stopping by our epidemics/pandemics/syndemics seminar, the students adored you!

unfortunately I have to run, but thank you everyone and see you soon again

nation

Meaning of nation securerity

Milyary dos to top to floor

I have to head out. thanks again everyone !

Thanks. I’m going to have to sign off too.

thanks all! I have to get to another meeting as well

On rain and the state—I heard a great talk on “plurality” yesterday as part of a seminar on

Unsettlement

“pluviality”

That should ring bells (alarms) from Haiti

pluviality and monsoons

Adia—check out Sarah Nutall’s work—she talks about heavy rainfall as needing more critical analysis, especially in relation to camps.

They always to take they are molecular

Say…the militaries

DEar, I must….goooooooooo

So sorry

love

I have another zoom meeting at 12:30—great to see all of you. Sending hugs!

Good to see you Erica! Write

Robert Hahn

Amen, mike. And you see I haven’t been able to leave

Thank you. Fascinating.

Late and must go! Great work and thanks for this space for discussion every week :-) I always learn so much