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Friday Morning Seminar - February 11 with Darja Djordjevic - Shared screen with speaker view
christophe Millien
01:14:08
Social economic right can ne be respected with anarchy
christophe Millien
01:18:23
pollical power should be smart enough to guide the community with discipline for not being In a cycle of violence creating more poverty and political instability responsible of violation of social economic rights
Dr Alain AHISHAKIYE
01:18:53
Thank you so much for this amazing idea generation Dr Darja Djordjevic
Maria de lourdes beldi de alcantara
01:19:06
Thank you my dear
christophe Millien
01:19:44
Outstanding lecture Darja
eric
01:22:07
With respect to thee argument that authoritarianism in Rwanda governance is justified as necessary to develop the economy, and that civil freedoms are more appropriate goals after a period of economic growth, how do you see the substantial critique of that position advanced b y Amartya Sen, who gives several examples of thee opposite order of development leading to substantial economic growth, and of authoritarian projects that led ot economic failure?
Michael M. J. Fischer
01:26:41
Fascinating talk! (1) Julie Livingston argues that there is a hidden epidemic of cancer secondary to control of HIV-AIDS in the context of not paying enough attention to other health needs. Are you suggesting a different mapping with over 50% of the burden of disease being cancer. (2) the immediate parallels for me of the discussion of authoritarianism are Singapore and China. Need a more targeted frame than “authoritarianism” —
Aneel Brar
01:27:28
I had a similar thought to Eric’s re. Sen’s emphasis on rights, freedom, and democracy leading to development. Although your defence of the “technocratic project of modernity” and oncology care as a gift of the state is compelling, do you see any potential pitfalls in this project becoming so tied with an autocratic state, especially in a region that has a history of benevolent dictatorship leading to chaos? Is there another, more democratic way to achieve these objectives?
christophe Millien
01:29:40
Managements of cancer is very challenging in low resources settings
Michael M. J. Fischer
01:30:08
I think your stress on the economy is and will be critical— tea and coffee won’t be sufficient — everyone is putting hopes in knowledge economies.
christophe Millien
01:30:09
for many raisons
christophe Millien
01:30:16
1-povery limits the creation of system2- lack of qualified human resources
christophe Millien
01:30:48
3-lack of access to the technology
christophe Millien
01:31:26
4- cancer cares are expensive
christophe Millien
01:32:18
5-infrastructure for cancer care are costly
christophe Millien
01:33:10
6- lack of program to prevent cancer care
Katherine Peeler
01:34:52
Dr. Hakizimana, while you are doing the MMSc, you should try to meet Grace Chan who does a lot of research in maternal and infant health (albeit in Ethiopia). I think you have a lot of overlapping interests: https://www.hsph.harvard.edu/haset/
David Jed Schwartz
01:35:06
the assumption seems to be that most or all of us know what the Rwandan context is. This is not the case at least for myself.
christophe Millien
01:35:11
7- cancer treatment required high skilled expensive specialists
christophe Millien
01:36:57
Without political will and global solidarity LIC will continue to continuous to struggle with cancer cares
Boniface Hakizimana
01:38:03
Thank you much Katherine. I will talk to her.
christophe Millien
01:39:00
There is tight link between political stability and health care system improvement
christophe Millien
01:39:18
for cancer care
Katherine Peeler
01:41:11
As a follow-up to Arthur’s question, has there been any incorporation of psychosocial care into “medical” oncology care in Rwanda with respect to incorporating the explanatory models that you mention patients often have (ex. cancer resulting from wounds acquired during the genocide, etc.)?
christophe Millien
01:43:02
yes , patients most of the time come at a late stage of disease in LIC
christophe Millien
01:43:55
we observed that in Haiti
christophe Millien
01:47:12
In the colonial period most of the time it's about mercantilism but not health system building
christophe Millien
01:48:22
In post colonial period countries will take time to overcome the stigma of colonisation to start moving forward
jaswant guzder
02:04:12
Thank you for very interesting tensions arising from these realities
Aneel Brar
02:04:13
I agree with humility of western/northern views on this. But there are also local perspectives that are critical or at least weary of the model.
Katherine Peeler
02:05:32
Thank you for a very interesting talk with great post-talk discussion and debate. I need to jump off a few minutes early.
Mila Djordjevic
02:07:06
Thank you Darja and all for an incredibly thought-provoking seminar
Darja Djordjevic
02:08:02
Thank you all very much! I am reading all your comments and questions, hope we will discuss more in the future beyond this seminar.
Aneel Brar
02:08:09
I appreciate your talk and I very much appreciate the efforts of an anthro concerned with actual effectiveness and improvement in access — something that I aspire to in my work in India. Leaned a lot. I will have to leave. See everyone next seminar!
Andrea Chiovenda
02:08:30
Thanks everyone, great discussion as ever
Andrea Chiovenda
02:08:48
see you all soon
Maria de lourdes beldi de alcantara
02:10:00
Thank you so much…..
Maria de lourdes beldi de alcantara
02:11:02
I have to leave because is the birth/ granddaugh///
Maria de lourdes beldi de alcantara
02:11:25
It was great…..than you again
christophe Millien
02:11:30
thank you so much for your wonderful lecture
Akile Gürsoy
02:11:45
Thank you! Most articulately expressed, revealing the complexities of health social care..
Dr Alain AHISHAKIYE
02:11:46
Thank you very much. I appreciate the talk and I learned many things.
Darja Djordjevic
02:21:15
Thank you Dr. Christophe!! Mesi anpil
christophe Millien
02:28:07
thanks everyone I have to leave now because I have a case in the OR
christophe Millien
02:28:37
Thanks to Mery Jo, Byron and Sadeq
christophe Millien
02:28:53
Arlene nice to see my accompagnateur
christophe Millien
02:29:07
buy love you all
christophe Millien
02:29:16
bye love you all
Darja Djordjevic
02:32:53
Love you back Dr. Christophe!!!
Arlene Katz
02:33:18
and to you my co-accompagnateur, love back
Arlene Katz
02:34:34
amazing, complex talk infused with humility and commitment on so many levels… alot to think about. thanks!
Akile Gürsoy
02:35:49
Thank you again. I have to leave now. I look forward to next Friday..
Darja Djordjevic
02:43:16
Thank you Akile!! See you soon.
Michael M. J. Fischer
02:46:16
Got to run — thank you Darja!!
Darja Djordjevic
02:46:33
Thank you so much Michael! Let’s please meet soon.